Cruise passengers who booked holidays with APT and its sister brand, Travelmarvel say they are out of pocket thousands of dollars from “cancellation charges” and “unrecoverable third party costs”.
They have complained to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, which is currently investigating a number of travel operators who have refused to refund passengers in full for cancelled cruises.
The issue has sparked a furious debate, with Cruise Passenger’s website receiving tens of thousands of views and comments on its coverage.
“The ACCC is aware of cases of travel providers charging high cancellation fees, or retaining high amount from refunds provided as unrecoverable costs,” said an ACCC spokesperson when asked about the issue.
“Travel providers should act in accordance with the terms and conditions that were in place at the time a consumer made their booking. This means cancellation fees can only be charged, and amounts retained from refunds, if the supplier is legally entitled to do so under the terms and conditions of the booking.
“If travel providers misrepresent consumer rights under contract, including in relation to the amount of any cancellation fees they can charge, they may be engaging in conduct in breach of the Australian Consumer Law.”
Joanne Jackson, a Brisbane woman who was due to travel to Europe on a $37,000 trip with her mother and her sister, claims to have had $9,200 withheld by Travelmarvel.
“The trip was supposed to be a trip for my mum, my sister and myself so we could spend some time together. We had booked European river cruise and paid just under $30,000 for the three of us,” said Ms Jackson.
“And with flights added on top of that, the total came to around $34,000. My mum, who is 77, paid for around $29,000 of the holiday, while I paid $5,000 so she footed most of the bill.”
Ms Jackson said Travelmarvel initially offered her and her family a cruise credit, but she was worried she might not be able to travel with her elderly mother.
Travelmarvel then offered them a refund – but less $9,200 which the company alleges is for unrecoverable third party costs.
“We were looking forward to this trip. It was going to be a holiday of a lifetime. We were five weeks out for travelling when Travelmarvel cancelled the holiday.
“When we requested a breakdown of what the money was being used for, we were just given an item on each invoice, saying it was for third party unrecoverable costs. It made me really sick at the thought that my mother is out of pocket so much money. And she wouldn’t be the only one.
“Since cruising appeals to so many elderly people, we are not the only ones in the same situation.”
A Victorian couple who had paid $13,000 for a European river cruise, only received an $8,000 cash refund, with APT citing that they were charged $5,000 for cancellation costs.
Another Gold Coast pensioner, who had booked an Amsterdam to Budapest river cruise with Travelmarvel, spent $17,000 on her holiday, which included flights. She too, was only offered $12,200 in refunds, leaving her $5,500 out of pocket.
Susan Smith said more than 30 per cent of the cost of her cruise was withheld on the basis of “irrecoverable costs’, but it has not been disclosed by Travelmarvel.
“Eventually they got back to us and said one part was ‘irrecoverable distribution costs’ and another part was ‘irrecoverable third-party supplier costs’. That is as far as they will tell us. We have no idea why we are paying their costs when we got nothing. We have no trip, nothing out it,” she told the Gold Coast Bulletin.
Ms Smith said she was “fair-minded” and understood there were costs the company could not absorb.
“What doesn’t seem fair is they keep a third of it in cancellation costs. That’s ludicrous.”
Barry and Liz Culph from Geelong were only offered an $8,000 cash refund from the total $13,000 paid.
“We’d at least want something more substantial than what was offered,” he said.
“There are people out there right now who are much worse off than we are. It’s also about the principle of the situation.”
The ACCC said: “If consumers are charged a cancellation fee, or have an amount to cover expenses retained from a refund provided to them, they should check the terms and conditions of their booking, and ask the travel provider to expressly identify the legal source of their right to the fee or amount to be retained; and provide an itemised breakdown justifying the amount charged or retained.”
Consumer advocate Adam Glezer, leader of the Facebook advocacy group Travel Industry Issues – The Need For Change for Australians, is calling on the government to regulate the industry to ensure that customers are not disadvantaged.
“It’s about time the government steps up and starts protecting customers. Why should the customer be faced with cancellation fees when they weren’t the ones to cancel the holiday? This one of many reasons why legislative change is a must.”
A spokesperson for APT said she could not discuss individual bookings, but that all customers impacted by cancellations had been offered credit for the full value of the travel.
“This was available in 2022 and transferable to family or friends. Those guest preferring a refund, the amount is less irrecoverable third party costs and overheads as outlined in our standard terms and conditions.
“In addition, we are also providing our Rebook with Confidence Cover, providing additional flexibility should they wish to rebook for a later date which is also over and above our usual terms and conditions. For those guests preferring a refund, the amount is less irrecoverable third party costs and overheads as outlined in our standard terms and conditions. This is also detailed on our website through our Travel Updates and booking policies as linked here.
“While we can appreciate the request for a breakdown of the irrecoverable costs, in these challenging times, the APT Travel Group is incurring numerous costs associated with cancellations. As we provide package holidays, we are unable to divulge individual contracts with our suppliers and therefore a detailed breakdown of costs.”
Karin Allan. We also pay for trip CMV cruise to Island from Newcastle. My Commonwealth Bank Travel insurance Cover-More pay all back (minus $250 excess). This is in insurance policy -company insolvency.
What idiot books cruise holiday in Covid-19 era! 1/3 fee lose is a suitable penalty for idiocy.
They are only causing their own demise as no-one will use them with the reputation of not putting their customers first. Our Travel Agent has refunded 100% of our cruise payments.
Advise from exp cruiser.Dont book anything till the decks are clear.
APT is just one big rip off family owned business. Will never book a trip with them.
I am very angry with APT, like many others only received a partial refund for cancelled River cruise. Will never book a trip with that company again. So much for a family owned business.
Greg Mc, we are the same. We received all $s back that we had booked direct in Europe, England and Scotland that included accommodation, trains, ferries and car hire.
This is not in relation to APT but I booked a cruise with a friend to sail from Fremantle to Broome etc in January with CMV on Vasco Da Gama . They have gone into liquidation and there has been no news of any refunds? Is anyone else in this situation?
Thankyou
Perhaps people should consider booking with a reputable company such as Viking, who DO NOT rip off the consumer and take third party costs. APT is taking advantage of a world wide situation to line their pockets – never have, and never would book with APT. We have friends who paid over $40000.00 for a trip with APT and have only received a credit – unable to get a refund. I guess APT is hoping most of the customers are older and may die before being able to use the credit – that way they get to keep to lot.
Dishonest, Unconscionable behaviour……
We booked flights with Flight Centre, and although it has taken 6 months to get our refund, we have received the FULL amount. No fees deducted.
Let this be a lesson to all of us. Book directly. Accommodation either side is much cheaper and flexible. Airfares are retrievable with some airlines if booked direct. Never again will I prepay a cruise again. Luckily I retrieved my full cost s thanks to Racq insurance. Feeew.
I agree with those sentiments entirely. I will NEVER make a booking with either Scenic or Hornsby Cruise and Travel. We are still waiting for the refund of money paid towards cancelled European River Cruise. Both the agent and tour operator are reneging, refusing to acknowledge and abide by the terms and condition in place at the time of accepting our booking
We booked a river cruise deposit only $6000 which we could only get a credit valid until the end of 2022. I guess we wait for a vaccine and see what happens. I am concerned that they will all go broke before any credits can be honoured
These companies who are refusing to abide by terms and condition in place at the time of accepting a booking, attempting to retrospectively apply changes to those said terms and conditions, thereby refusing refunds, could do well to beware “an unhappy client is a VERY bad advertisement”
Some are keeping their business afloat and living the ‘high life’, with the money of others, whilst those others suffer unimaginable grief. Wreaking havoc on households, financially, physically, and mentally, causing friction in customarily happy environments, does not provide you with return custom.
Do the right thing by your clients, abide by YOUR terms and conditions at the time of accepting THEIR booking and they will keep on returning
It is a very shortsighted approach to keeping customers. I am still awaiting a refund of my cruise deposit less the over the top fees. So I have made a decision:- 1. I will never use that travel agent again. 2. I will never book with the cruise line concerned again. 3. I will book (and already have) future travel and accommodation directly with the provider who must have a decent refund or cancellation policy.
It is time for the industry to rapidly develop an business recovery strategy that addresses customer needs and rebuilds confidence.